{"id":5476,"date":"2016-10-11T06:00:38","date_gmt":"2016-10-11T13:00:38","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.autodesk.com/blogs\/autocad\/?p=5476"},"modified":"2020-04-07T14:53:18","modified_gmt":"2020-04-07T21:53:18","slug":"real-life-autocad-drawing-tips-2-tuesday-tips-with-dieter","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.autodesk.com/blogs\/autocad\/real-life-autocad-drawing-tips-2-tuesday-tips-with-dieter\/","title":{"rendered":"Close the Gate \u2014 Real-Life AutoCAD Drawing Tips, Part 2: Tuesday Tips with Dieter"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>Wow, was I ever delighted by the responses I received from <a href=\"https:\/\/www.autodesk.com/blogs\/autocad\/real-life-autocad-drawing-tips-part-1-tuesday-tips\/\">last week\u2019s gate design challenge<\/a>! The first correct answer came from Emre Cengizoglu, a MSc civil engineer from Turkey. Emre, who works for a company doing steel projects, started with a reference circle with the radius of the diagonal length, created a 1-1\/2\u201d brace with that diagonal, and then used the Align command to place it. Working independently, Brian Lottis with Mazzetti, Inc. out of Portland, and Paul Stilwell, Senior Surveyor and CAD Supervisor with Survey Systems Ltd, out of the United Kingdom, each used the method I had in mind.<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.autodesk.com/blogs\/autocad\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/35\/2020\/04\/autocad-drawing-gate_fig-1_ivq86d.jpg\" rel=\"attachment wp-att-5479\" data-lbwps-width=\"790\" data-lbwps-height=\"258\" data-lbwps-srcsmall=\"https:\/\/www.autodesk.com/blogs\/autocad\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/35\/2020\/04\/autocad-drawing-gate_fig-1_ivq86d-300x98.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone size-full wp-image-5479\" src=\"https:\/\/www.autodesk.com/blogs\/autocad\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/35\/2020\/04\/autocad-drawing-gate_fig-1_ivq86d.jpg\" alt=\"AutoCAD drawing 1. Real-life AutoCAD drawing tips. Tuesday Tips.\" width=\"790\" height=\"258\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.autodesk.com/blogs\/autocad\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/35\/2020\/04\/autocad-drawing-gate_fig-1_ivq86d.jpg 790w, https:\/\/www.autodesk.com/blogs\/autocad\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/35\/2020\/04\/autocad-drawing-gate_fig-1_ivq86d-300x98.jpg 300w, https:\/\/www.autodesk.com/blogs\/autocad\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/35\/2020\/04\/autocad-drawing-gate_fig-1_ivq86d-768x251.jpg 768w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 790px) 100vw, 790px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>First, they each constructed a large circle centered on one corner at P1 and a point on the radius at P2. Next, they drew a line at an arbitrary angle from P3 to P4 on the circle (you can use the near object snap to avoid having to trim or extend the line). They then offset the line by 1-1\/2\u201d and trimmed it back to the circle. From there, they used the Rotate command\u2019s Reference option to rotate the diagonal brace into place. The reference points they specified are on a diagonal at P5 and P6, and the final point of rotation was at P7. After trimming the lines, Paul and Brian were done. The precise length of each diagonal edge of the brace was 53.36588038 inches.<\/p>\n<h2 id=\"your-real-life-autocad-drawing-tips-and-lessons-learned-for-the-gate-design-challenge\">Your real-life AutoCAD drawing tips (and lessons learned) for the gate-design challenge<\/h2>\n<ul>\n<li>Create construction geometry when needed: Keep it on a separate layer for later reference, but watch out for extraneous geometry.<\/li>\n<li>Rotate objects into place: You can use the Reference option to align geometry.<\/li>\n<li>Get creative: There are always several ways to combine your imagination with AutoCAD tools to solve a geometric problem.<\/li>\n<li>Be careful: Always check! I received several solutions that were <em>tantalizingly<\/em> close and deceptively easy. To paraphrase H.L. Mencken, for every problem, there\u2019s a solution that is neat, plausible \u2026 and wrong.<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<h2 id=\"using-tangents-to-close-the-gate\">Using tangents to close the gate<\/h2>\n<p>There are also solutions, using tangents to circles, that weren\u2019t allowed for this exercise. Let\u2019s take a look.<\/p>\n<p>I scaled up the illustrations below so you can see the circles better.<a href=\"https:\/\/www.autodesk.com/blogs\/autocad\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/35\/2020\/04\/autocad-drawing-gate_fig-2_fmureb.jpg\" rel=\"attachment wp-att-5482\" data-lbwps-width=\"358\" data-lbwps-height=\"208\" data-lbwps-srcsmall=\"https:\/\/www.autodesk.com/blogs\/autocad\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/35\/2020\/04\/autocad-drawing-gate_fig-2_fmureb-300x174.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-full wp-image-5482 alignright\" src=\"https:\/\/www.autodesk.com/blogs\/autocad\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/35\/2020\/04\/autocad-drawing-gate_fig-2_fmureb.jpg\" alt=\"AutoCAD drawing 2. Real-life AutoCAD drawing tips. Tuesday Tips.\" width=\"358\" height=\"208\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.autodesk.com/blogs\/autocad\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/35\/2020\/04\/autocad-drawing-gate_fig-2_fmureb.jpg 358w, https:\/\/www.autodesk.com/blogs\/autocad\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/35\/2020\/04\/autocad-drawing-gate_fig-2_fmureb-300x174.jpg 300w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 358px) 100vw, 358px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>In this illustration, you can see that a diagonal line was created between the inside corners, and a circle of radius 3\/4\u201d (or diameter 1-1\/2\u201d) was created at the midpoint of the line.<\/p>\n<p>Next, create a line from P1 to the tangent to the circle at P2.<\/p>\n<p>Then, offset that line by 1-1\/2\u201d and extend and trim them both into place.<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.autodesk.com/blogs\/autocad\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/35\/2020\/04\/autocad-drawing-gate_fig-3_a1rlcv.jpg?cld_params=q_auto,w_auto:100:357\" rel=\"attachment wp-att-5485\" data-lbwps-width=\"357\" data-lbwps-height=\"205\" data-lbwps-srcsmall=\"https:\/\/www.autodesk.com/blogs\/autocad\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/35\/2020\/04\/autocad-drawing-gate_fig-3_a1rlcv-300x172.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-full wp-image-5485 alignleft\" src=\"https:\/\/www.autodesk.com/blogs\/autocad\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/35\/2020\/04\/autocad-drawing-gate_fig-3_a1rlcv.jpg?cld_params=q_auto,w_auto:100:357\" alt=\"AutoCAD drawing 3. Real-life AutoCAD drawing tips. Tuesday Tips.\" width=\"357\" height=\"205\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.autodesk.com/blogs\/autocad\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/35\/2020\/04\/autocad-drawing-gate_fig-3_a1rlcv.jpg 357w, https:\/\/www.autodesk.com/blogs\/autocad\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/35\/2020\/04\/autocad-drawing-gate_fig-3_a1rlcv-300x172.jpg 300w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 357px) 100vw, 357px\" \/><\/a>In the next illustration, Misha Belilovskiy, Senior QA Manager at Autodesk, created a circle of radius 1-1\/2\u201d at the inside corner.<\/p>\n<p>He then created a line from P1 to the tangent of the circle at P2. Offsetting the line and trimming the results yielded the precise solution.<\/p>\n<p>Thanks to everyone who worked on this challenge! It was a lot of fun!<\/p>\n<h2 id=\"autocad-tuesday-tips-the-adventure-continues\">AutoCAD Tuesday Tips: The Adventure Continues \u2026.<\/h2>\n<p>Last week\u2019s AutoCAD Tuesday Tips with Dieter\u00a0\u2026\u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/www.autodesk.com/blogs\/autocad\/real-life-autocad-drawing-tips-part-1-tuesday-tips\/\">Open the Gate \u2014 Real-Life AutoCAD Drawing Tips, Part 1<\/a><\/p>\n<p>Next week\u2019s AutoCAD Tuesday Tips with Lynn\u00a0\u2026\u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/www.autodesk.com/blogs\/autocad\/autocad-right-click-menu-tuesday-tips\/\"><span style=\"font-family: Times\">AutoCAD Right-Click Menu \u2013 Find the Hidden Gems<\/span><\/a><\/p>\n<p>Can\u2019t wait a week for your next tip? Register\u00a0to\u00a0<a href=\"http:\/\/www.autodesk.com\/campaigns\/inspired-by-autocad\/best-lynn-allen-tips-tricks\">download Lynn Allen\u2019s \u201cbest of\u201d AutoCAD and AutoCAD LT tips book.<\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Wow, was I ever delighted by the responses I received from last week\u2019s gate design challenge! The first correct answer came from Emre Cengizoglu, a MSc civil engineer from Turkey. 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